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This sounds more negative than intended. But I remember a conference way back, when Susan Wise Bauer said it was OK to not write everyday in every subject. My kids were shocked that this was the advice I came back with. (It was good advice and they are all strong writers now.) Similarly, there was a point with my engineer when I realized Latin was a stumbling block to his goals and interests. How do you know if you're doing enough? Comparison with local or online homeschoolers can make you feel really behind or really ahead. What does age appropriate work look like? How do we know if testing for learning issues or neurodiversity is appropriate? How do we decide if changing a curriculum is appropriate or if we just need more time with it? What if we (the parent) are struggling? Do we stay the course, get help, stop homeschooling? How do we celebrate our family homeschooling accomplishments when those around us don't quite get it?

Retired veteran here. My advice to newbies: The traditional greeting for Story of the World users is, "Did you mummify the chicken?" Also, Costco can meet all of your chicken mummification needs.

How does one approach the transition to classical education from an unschooling model, particularly as grammar, logic and rhetoric stages were not previously considered.

‘Common home school subjects’😂

Would you summarise important areas of focus in terms of a study plan for grammar, logic and rhetoric stages for the broke and busy?

It would be great if you would respond to my detailed review of the racist, whitewashed and problematic elements in your SOTW volume 2 curriculum that I gave on your page in February after you demanded (with some snark) that I give evidence for my comments. I gave the evidence and it has been crickets since that time. Are you consulting with BIPOC educators and historians to revise your curriculum?

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We convinced our younger two to start rewatching the original Star Trek TV series with us over the holiday weekend. For cultural literacy, you know.

Gene Roddenberry always used to boast about how progressive he was, and maybe for 1966, that was actually true. But I had forgotten just how unrelentingly misogynistic those first few episodes are. (Maybe it has something to do with watching with twentysomethings.) In any case: We have flirty women, vicious women, murderous women, shape-shifting women, clueless women, deluded women, salt-monster-women...

My daughter's comment, below.
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We convinced our younger two to start rewatching the original Star Trek TV series with us over the holiday weekend. For cultural literacy, you know. 

Gene Roddenberry always used to boast about how progressive he was, and maybe for 1966, that was actually true. But I had forgotten just how unrelentingly misogynistic those first few episodes are. (Maybe it has something to do with watching with twentysomethings.) In any case: We have flirty women, vicious women, murderous women, shape-shifting women, clueless women, deluded women, salt-monster-women...

My daughters comment, below.

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You don't realize how far women have progressed in society (and normal male behavior has changed) until you start watching old tv shows and movies.

Suspend your disbelief. It's just a story meant to keep viewers watching. Don't take it so seriously.

We recently tried watching some old James Bond after going to a museum exhibit about the science behind the gadgets. It was rough.

I love Uhura’s sarcastic jabs at Spock in the first few episodes, especially in light of later interpretations of their relationship.

We tried introducing the young adults to M.A.S.H. I remember a lot of innuendo and insinuations, but they're old enough for that. Yeah, no. The one and only episode we got through featured Hawkeye and B.J. setting up Margaret for ***ual assault, so they can trick some officer into giving them a 3-day pass to Tokyo. Our kids were *horrified* that it passed for humor, back in the day. Guess our culture has progressed a lot more than I recognized.

My daughter attends a private high school. Many of the students come from well-to-do backgrounds. Almost all will go to college and many will obtain higher-level degrees. They will likely be the professional and political leaders of tomorrow. I don’t believe that they are aberrations of their generation. In light of the Benedictine graduation speech controversy, a female literature teacher assigned an online discussion “describe the ideal woman”. There was no counterpart “describe the ideal man”. Let’s just say the online debate that occurred (NOT anonymous) before it was terminated was substantial and revealing. The principal was involved the next morning, meeting with the men and women separately … and apologizing to the women. By the end of the day, the literature teacher was in tears. For all the comments about “you don’t realize how far women have progressed in society”, “normal behavior has changed”, “our culture has progressed a lot more than I recognized”, the stories were a reflection of that time, and a “few years ago that passed for normal,” etc., — I’d posit that naïveté reigns. Misogyny hasn’t disappeared, it’s just more subtle.

I adore TOS. But...yeah. Bless its heart.

I taught I course "Introduction to ethical philosophy through Star Trek" for middle schoolers this year. I picked the TOS episodes with care, but still did a lesson on the history of problematic depictions in star trek particularly depictions of women, LBGTQ issues and race. It is my favorite class I have taught.

Yeah, it’s rough. I think Discovery and Strange New Worlds were created partially to retcon the whole misogynistic mess.

Captain Kirk is climbing a mountain. Why is he climbing a mountain?

I had heard about the reputation of the Original Series but never had the the opportunity to watch it until a few years ago. Fortunately, the misogyny is so ridiculous you can’t possibly take it seriously. I kept laughing soooo hard. I mean, how is she supposed to save the universe wearing THAT?!

Oh yeh. He was a notorious misogynist. This is a fascinating documentary I stumbled upon a while back about all the behind the scenes drama. He was also notorious for re-writing scripts and taking credit for other peoples work. DC Fontana was on the receiving end of a lot of this. It’s an interesting watch and narrated by Gates McFaddan. www.amazon.com/Trekking-through-70s-Motion-Picture/dp/B09SKYC4WH/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?crid=MAHPXIRK9Q0P...

It would be interesting to create some framework and then use it to compare STOS to all the other shows airing during those same years from ‘66 to ‘69. I’m sure compared to Bewitched, I Dream of Jeannie, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Petty Coat Junction, etc. Star Trek comes off better.

I love TOS best, but good golly. Kirk: "Sure, you're an accomplished scientist/alien/colonist, but you're also a WOMAN (which definitely means you should fall for me, right now!)"

We just watched Indiana Jones Temple of Doom last night and I kept waiting for the scene where the woman saved the day or got her moment, but apparently they just hired her because she could scream and faint when approached by bugs and snakes. 🙄🙄

I’m a Next Generation fan. I started with the original as a kid, but yea it’s pretty cringe. It was progressive for its time, but it’s pretty hard to watch sometimes.

There have been a lot of things that I remember liking, and I watch or read them with my kids now and realize how bad some of it is. I loved Bewitched, but Darren constantly telling Samantha that she can’t be what she is because it offends him, but it is somehow a great marriage where a centuries old woman with lots of power should be happy because she can wash dishes by hand and host dinner parties for his misogynistic boss. Even movies from my high school years aren’t great. There are so many late 90s/early 2000s movies where the plot is about the “ugly” girl who is unpopular, but then the cool guy takes off her glasses and she gets a makeover, and suddenly she is part of the popular group.

A wonderful quality is learning how to take oneself less seriously.

My 20yo and I are watching Daniel Craig’s James Bond movies. I’ve been explaining the references and history of various things. We’re having fun with them, but when he leans towards Vesper Lynd and says, “You haven’t seen what I can do with my little finger,” she cringed hard and yelled, “oh, gross, dude!” I don’t think she’d cope well with previous iterations. 😁

The studio made him dress the women that way. He actually wanted them in pants.

Progressivism is increasingly ravenous for the meat of its own tail. It’s spinning a tighter and tighter circle every year

Seriously! We forced our son to watch and realized some parts were so sexist and antiquated—complete objectification of women! How our perspective changes!

That's hilarious, we did the same thing! The height of those skirts! They make yoga pants seem downright Ingallsian.😳

Our 20 somethings have had similar remarks, but they did watch it with us.

Love this....🥰

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The last two weeks have been all about transitions, endings and beginnings.

My youngest graduated today from Hollins University, summa cum laude.

She's ready to move to the next thing, and I'm proud of her, and I'm also crazy glad to be out of the tuition paying years. But I cried all day anyway.
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Way to go! And now I get to tell my daughter that she was in the same building as you, as she loved all of your wonderful curriculum over the years. My daughter was there to see her best friend, K, graduate 🙂

I get it! These transitions are joyful but difficult 🙂

Congratulations!

Fantastic! Way to go Emily!!!

Congrats, Emily!

Totally understandable!

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